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Walters: The Leahy-Gorsuch Two-Step


Sen. Patrick Leahy questions Judge Neil Gorsuch before the Senate Judiciary Committee on Tuesday. - RON SACHS / CNP VIA AP
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  • Sen. Patrick Leahy questions Judge Neil Gorsuch before the Senate Judiciary Committee on Tuesday.
U.S. Supreme Court nomination hearings are a tightly choreographed dance. Members of the Senate Judiciary Committee deliver lengthy orations with questions dangling precariously at the end, and nominees try their best not to say anything that might reveal the slightest hint of an opinion.

Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) has performed this dance more than probably any other human being who’s ever walked the earth, as the Senate’s longest currently serving member and the senior Democrat on the Judiciary Committee. On Tuesday, he took a new partner for a spin: Appellate Court Judge Neil Gorsuch, President Donald Trump’s first Supreme Court nominee. It was the second day of Gorsuch’s confirmation hearings but the first time the nominee was questioned under oath.

As in a dance, each partner plays a well-rehearsed role and is fully aware of the other’s moves. The one big difference: Astaire tries to step on his partner’s toes and provoke a reaction, while Rogers’ face maintains a resolute smile.

At Tuesday’s hearing, Leahy sometimes provoked a visible clench from the witness and a response best described as obsequious condescension. Gorsuch isn’t quite a skilled enough Rogers to completely hide his political differences with Leahy and his impatience with the senator’s tactics.

Leahy began by recapping the sordid history of the court vacancy: The seat was opened with the death of justice Antonin Scalia more than a year ago, and resolutely preserved by the Senate’s Republican majority. Leahy pointed out that Gorsuch had expressed admiration for Appellate Court Judge Merrick Garland, former president Barack Obama’s never-considered nominee.

“Very much so, senator,” Gorsuch replied. “He is an outstanding judge.”

But Gorsuch refused to answer Leahy’s question about whether Garland was treated fairly.

“I can’t get involved in politics,” he said. “There are judicial canons that prevent me from doing that.”

That was the theme of the day, as Gorsuch did his best to evade every inquiry Leahy tossed his way.

The senator tried his best. He slammed the Senate’s “shameful” handling of the Garland nomination and noted that Gorsuch’s judicial career has been backed by far-right billionaire Philip Anschutz, who “lobbied the White House to appoint you.”

“As I recall, all of my clients, or many of them, came out of the woodwork to say nice things about me, and Phil Anschutz was one,” Gorsuch replied. “And I think there’s probably letters in there from the fellow with the gravel pit, too.”

Leahy interrupted. “Which one do you think the White House listened to the most? Mr. Anschutz or a gravel pit owner?”

Good line, but Gorsuch didn’t take the bait. “I think what they listened to was the fact that they’d seen me in action,” he replied.

There were some contentious exchanges, as Leahy sought to pin down Gorsuch and the nominee squirted away. There was a lengthy, inconclusive colloquy on the Citizens United decision that barred many restrictions on campaign donations. Leahy quizzed Gorsuch on whether the Constitution said anything about corporate contributions.

“The Supreme Court issued a variety of opinions on that very subject,” the judge said, “looking back to the First Amendment to see whether it embraced the speech at issue in those cases.”

The colloquy continued:

Leahy: But nothing in the Federalist Papers that talked about corporate money going into campaigns, is that correct?

Gorsuch: Well, s-s-s-senator, I —

Leahy: That’s an easy yes or no.

Gorsuch: I, I, I think there’s an awful lot in the Federalist Papers and elsewhere that were relevant to and considered by both concurrences and dissents in Citizens United.

Leahy: But nothing about corporate money.

Gorsuch: I, I don’t remember that term, no, Senator.

Leahy: Trust me, there wasn’t.

Gorsuch: I trust you.

Leahy: Okay.

Gorsuch: Entirely.

Leahy: No, you don’t have to.

Gorsuch: Not that much? [Plausibly sincere laughter from witness and audience]

Leahy: I’ll let it go. [Plausibly sincere laughter]
Leahy moved on to the influence of money in politics, asking if there wasn’t something inherently corrupting about a corporation donating “unlimited amounts of money.” Gorsuch resisted — to the point of absurdity.

Leahy: If somebody were to out and out buy a vote, we’d all agree that’s corruption, is it not?

Gorsuch: I think [Supreme Court] Justice [Anthony] Kennedy would agree with you, yes.

Leahy: Would you agree with me?

Gorsuch: I follow the law. And that would certainly follow my understanding of the law.

Leahy kept up the pace, and Gorsuch evaded nimbly. Leahy tried to get the judge to agree that members of a religious group should not be prohibited from entering the United States or serving in the military, and whether a president’s powers would supersede a congressional prohibition against torture or warrantless wiretapping.

Gorsuch’s repeated reply: “No man is above the law.”
How quaint. Biscuits in the oven, ladies. 
Judge Neil Gorsuch testifying before the Senate Judiciary Committee - PHOTO COURTESY SEN. PATRICK LEAHY'S OFFICE
  • Photo courtesy Sen. Patrick Leahy's office
  • Judge Neil Gorsuch testifying before the Senate Judiciary Committee

Beyond that, it should be noted that while the statement appears definitive, Gorsuch did not actually make a firm commitment on any specific issue. No man may be above the law, but perhaps a man can be off to one side, or it might depend on how you define “the law.”

Leahy then sought Gorsuch’s views on recent Supreme Court decisions limiting class action lawsuits and the scope of the Voting Rights Act. Leahy argued that in past hearings Supreme Court nominees had been willing to address previous cases. But Gorsuch claimed that, although those cases had been decided, they might come before the Court anew, so it would be improper for him to comment.

And then Leahy’s designated half hour expired. He got the nominee sweating, but never knocked him off balance.

Not surprising. High court nominees read, study and practice for these occasions. Their ascent to the nation’s highest court depends on their agility under tough questioning.

The hearing will continue Wednesday, with Leahy and his 19 colleagues getting another shot at the nominee. Expect more of the same.